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Chenchukon
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:21 am    Post subject: Updated list of ownership and rights Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I got approval to open a new forum that focuses on the title above.
I will post very soon a list of owners of rights of a series from the 70's and the 80's, which as you know, are either forgotten or intentionally not released.
Frequent changes in ownership, mergers and closures, have made it almost impossible to follow who owns what and who makes what.

I think that a place like this forum that everyone can bring info about any changes might make it easier to keep up with the changes and help contact companies.

I hope that you will contribute to this forum.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a basic list of ownership/rights of the following series. If you have additions or updates feel free to post them in this forum.


20th Century Fox
- CBS Storybreak, 26 eps 1985 CBS
- Popeye and Son,13 eps (26 Segments) 1987 CBS
Ruby Spears
- The Puppy’s Greatest Adventures, 1 eps 1984 CBS/ABC
- The Puppy’s New Adventure, 13 eps 1982
- The Puppy’s Further Adventures, 8 eps 1983
Hanna Barbera
- CB Bears, 13 eps 1977 NBC Warner Bros
- Blast Off Buzzard, 13 eps 1977
- Posse Impossible, 13 eps 1977
- Heyyy, It’s the King, 13 eps 1977
- Shake Rattle and Roll, 13 eps 1977
- Undercover Elephant, 13 eps 1977
Saban Entertainment
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Concept Group Inc ( for ABC)
- ABC Weekend Specials, 133 eps 1977 ABC
- Other ABC Weekend Specials, 12 eps 1997 ABC
Marvel Productions
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Warner Archives
- Mister T Second Season, 17 eps


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chenchukon wrote:
This is a basic list of ownership/rights of the following series. If you have additions or updates feel free to post them in this forum.


20th Century Fox
- CBS Storybreak, 26 eps 1985 CBS
- Popeye and Son,13 eps (26 Segments) 1987 CBS
Ruby Spears
- The Puppy’s Greatest Adventures, 1 eps 1984 CBS/ABC
- The Puppy’s New Adventure, 13 eps 1982
- The Puppy’s Further Adventures, 8 eps 1983
Hanna Barbera
- CB Bears, 13 eps 1977 NBC Warner Bros
- Blast Off Buzzard, 13 eps 1977
- Posse Impossible, 13 eps 1977
- Heyyy, It’s the King, 13 eps 1977
- Shake Rattle and Roll, 13 eps 1977
- Undercover Elephant, 13 eps 1977
Saban Entertainment
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Concept Group Inc ( for ABC)
- ABC Weekend Specials, 133 eps 1977 ABC
- Other ABC Weekend Specials, 12 eps 1997 ABC
Marvel Productions
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Warner Archives
- Mister T Second Season, 17 eps


Most of this is incorrect. All Ruby Spears and Hanna Barbera productions are both actually owned by Warner. Or Specific production companies (example: Sectaurs miniseries was produced by Ruby Spears but since Sectaurs is the property of 5 Seasons, they own rights to the animated series.) Ruby Spears and Hanna barbera no longer exist as independent companies. Ruby Spears was bought out by HB, HB was bought out by Warner. Warner now owns both former companies.

Marvel productions are owned by Disney. Saban bought Marvel productions, Saban sold all Marvel properties to Disney when Disney acquired Marvel Comics.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SharpFork,

If you go back to my posts in the past you'll see that the details in them are as you posted here.

My list refers to the in between years when there were lots of buy and sell and repositioning in the production industry.

It would be helpful if you could post the best updated list and maybe details that are not usually available to the public.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SharpFork"][quote="Chenchukon"]This is a basic list of ownership/rights of the following series. If you have additions or updates feel free to post them in this forum.


20th Century Fox
- CBS Storybreak, 26 eps 1985 CBS
- Popeye and Son,13 eps (26 Segments) 1987 CBS
Ruby Spears
- The Puppy’s Greatest Adventures, 1 eps 1984 CBS/ABC
- The Puppy’s New Adventure, 13 eps 1982
- The Puppy’s Further Adventures, 8 eps 1983
Hanna Barbera
- CB Bears, 13 eps 1977 NBC Warner Bros
- Blast Off Buzzard, 13 eps 1977
- Posse Impossible, 13 eps 1977
- Heyyy, It’s the King, 13 eps 1977
- Shake Rattle and Roll, 13 eps 1977
- Undercover Elephant, 13 eps 1977
Saban Entertainment
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Concept Group Inc (for ABC)
- ABC Weekend Specials, 133 eps 1977 ABC
- Other ABC Weekend Specials, 12 eps 1997 ABC
Marvel Productions
- Little Wizards, 13 eps 1987 ABC
Warner Archives
- Mister T Second Season, 17 eps[/quote]

Most of this is incorrect. All Ruby Spears and Hanna Barbera productions are both actually owned by Warner. Or Specific production companies (example: Sectaurs miniseries was produced by Ruby Spears but since Sectaurs is the property of 5 Seasons, they own rights to the animated series.) Ruby Spears and Hanna barbera no longer exist as independent companies. Ruby Spears was bought out by HB, HB was bought out by Warner. Warner now owns both former companies.

Marvel productions are owned by Disney. Saban bought Marvel productions, Saban sold all Marvel properties to Disney when Disney acquired Marvel Comics.[/quote]


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:08 pm    Post subject: Changes and Rights Reply with quote

I already wrote about how Disney brought ABC Entertainment Division, Ruby Spears was bought out by HB, and then HB was bought out by Warner Brothers, and Marvel productions are owned by Disney. As we know changes in ownership are constant. The importance of being aware of these changes is because we might guess what the companies’ intent is.

When new information pops up, if the source of that information is reliable, then we might want to check further until we prove that it’s accurate enough to bring it to interested members, post it, or disregard it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:17 pm    Post subject: about old series Reply with quote

Even though the discussion about some old cartoon series did not develop and I

haven’t receive answers, I’m still interested to hear your opinion, on the fact that WD, WB, and 20th Century Fox regarding the actual reality that they don’t release old series,

Nevertheless, I believe that in the end those companies will have to give up and release some of them. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get loads of people to pirate download a few episodes of each and then the companies might listen.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Optimus Prime,

This is not new.

hundreds of thousands of people download stuff from pirate bay everyday, and I didn't hear or see that this had any influence on the stubborn companies what's so ever.

I believe that only direct and active pressure, nagging, calling and writing, especially if there is support from sites like this, might help. Like always, public pressure is what works.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, but are those downloads of those particular series?

There is another way to try, sites about shows with episodes to stream and put pressure there?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're right, this is another way to create pressure. if we want results though, we must be creative. Moreover, nothing will happen, ever, if we continue the way it has been until now.

I might be wrong, but I believe that there are many, many people, especially the more mature, that love and are interested in watching the old cartoons.

The fact that no pressure is being applied on the companies that hold the rights, tells me that most of those that love old cartoons are just passive.

That is why I'm trying to find ways to engage them so that it creates a mass of people that ask the companies to do something about it.

How, and what, can we do to make it happen is my concern.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm passive. But that's to do with my mental illness.

I've tried Warner Archive before in the past, and just got the usual, we'll send the comments to the relevant department jazz, so no real help from them.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Optimus Prime,

Sorry to hear about your disability.

What I was talking about is the fact that people expect others to do their work. If any of us tries to move the production companies on their own nothing will happen. But, if we stick together because we old cartoons then we might be able to do something about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only real way to band together, is maybe a petition?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A petition is a good start and it's a good idea.

I can prepare a draft of it and try to get permission from Aurora to post it on the website.

Maybe, even have MacGyver post it under his name so that it gets more weight.

The big question is whether there will be enough people to sign it; because if not, it could look pathetic.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the risk you take I'm afraid. I'd post the link around, but can't guarantee any signatures. But, it'll be a way of gathering people to one overall voice.

Whether the companies take note however, can't also be guaranteed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I trust that you'll do your best. I will contact MacGyver and ask him if it's okay with him, or we need the owner's approval. If all goes well I'll prepare a petition that others can join.

Let's hope it will work.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can only try.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:16 pm    Post subject: Request Reply with quote

The basic list of ownership changes all the time. This is why it’s difficult to know
who exactly owns rights of series, which rights and how many.

Also, it is almost impossible to get credible info about what they intend to do with those series.

Can anyone provide an updated list of distribution rights and ownership of series from the mid 70’s to the mid 80’s.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea, so I'm out.
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